Bob and I said goodbye to Steve and Jatila before going to bed after our long Leb i Vino day. They had to leave early in the morning to go back to Skopje, visit friends, go shopping, and catch a plane. I enjoyed our time together.
The next morning, Bob and I had breakfast with Elena and Jane. First they took us to a house-museum. It was once owned by a wealthy Greek and was purportedly the largest home in the Balkans at that time. It has been restored and is frequented by tourists. We discussed possible Islamic and/or Turkish influences on the home–original, or added in during the restoration. This subject had also come up yesterday related to music, as part of our marathon discussion.
After one last walk-through, we said goodbye and squeezed into Bob’s Mazda. We were heading for Plovdiv, where Larry and Margaret have a home in an apartment building next to my old kaval teacher, Professor Lyuben Dossev and his wife, Tanya Dosseva, a well-known singer. Their children had gotten married (Lyuben’s daughter had spent time in the states) and now had a son, so the families had become intertwined. Larry comes here a couple of times a year. We wanted to see the new place and visit.
Bob and I were in no rush, so we decided to forego the main highways and take a scenic southern route through Goce Delcev to Dospat, and then up through the western Rodopes to Plovdiv. We tried a very small road out of Melnik, but it looked like it turned into a goat trail, so we backed out and tried to find the main highway to the Goce Delcev cutoff. While making a left turn to head toward an entrance ramp, we were almost hit by a BMW who had come out of nowhere and cut us off. A big bruiser with a skinhead cut walked over and started yelling at Bob, who was trying to apologize, even though we had both looked in both directions before he turned. Then this guy reaches in the car window and slaps Bob on the face! Bob was physically ok, but this was a big shock to both of us. The big bully got into his car and drove off after a few more words. Bob and I talked about this on and off the rest of the day. I think he was more affected by this than he let on; he was assaulted, after all. It was the most negative thing that has happened to us or anyone else on this trip.
We did shake off this incident somewhat, and tried to enjoy the ride. The southern Pirin mountains aren’t as imposing as the northern variants, but it was still a nice ride. Again, a history-filled area, with towns named after revolutionary heroes who fought the Ottoman occupation. The road we were on is supposedly the road on whicdh jane Sandanski was assassinated. We stopped for a break in Goce Delcev, home of the musician Roumen Shopov, who now lives in the Bay Area, but decided to continue.
Eventually we reached Dospat, a dusty small town, where we stopped in a tiny coffee bar. There was a muslim family there, and in Dospat and other towns in this region we saw mosques but no churches (we could have just missed the latter). We went north from Dospat, up into the mountains, where the air was cooler. We passed by dammed lakes, where people fished, sailed, or rode bikes. No towns, although some small, rather pathetic resort villages. I have a feeling this area will get developed over the next 10 years as some kind of getaway.
After emerging from the mountains (nothing dramatic, more like big hills), it was pretty much a grind to Plovdiv. I haven’t been here for 35 years, and it’s grown immensely. One of the first signs that things had changed was the graffiti-covered streetcar. We found Larry’s home more by divine intervention than anything else (Bob’s phone stillĀ wasn’t working). It was great to see him again. I’ve seen him on this trip more than I’ve seen him in 20 years, and Bob and I haven’t ever spent this much time together.
After we got settled, Larry took us next door to visit Lyuben’s family. Tanya greeted us first, and we had rakia and some meat and palichinki (pancakes). Then Lyuben got home, and we did everything all over again. He’s looking good, and is now the vice-rector at the Academy of Music. His English is also much better, despite his protestations to the contrary.
They had to go to bed early due to a music video filming the next day, so we took leave and went out to dinner. Larry had visited Leb i Vino a few days before we did, so discussed our thoughts about their approach to music, their hopes and plans, and larger issues that our conversations had raised for us. The restaurant we ate in had music videos playing on the TV, some sexually provocative, and this was my 2nd hit on the changes in the city.
We picked up this conversation the next morning, and then expanded it to our own interests and goals in this folklore area and our lives in general. I really enjoyed this conversation, one I can’t share with too many people due to either lack of interest in the topic, or lack of commitment, or not having a shared experience over decades. So, it was lively and stimulating.
We got hungry eventually and went out to eat, still talking. Here was my third hit on how Plovdiv (and, by extension, Bulgaria) has changed since I last visited: we soon hit a pedestrian mall which could have been any European pedestrian mall catering to international tourists. You only had to change the language. Larry said that the half-life of the stores was pretty short, and I can’t imagine them getting much business.
We had lunch in a small place near Old Town run by an Armenian, cafeteria, “point-and-eat” style. It was good; I had moussaka just to see what it was like. They used some kind of green squash instead of eggplant, and no meat. Larry had work to do for the folk music and dance seminar he’s running here which begins in a few days. So, he left, and Bob and I waslked into and around old town.
Plovdiv has been inhabited a long time, all the way back to the Bronze Age. It was known as Philipopolis after being conquered by Philip the 2nd. The old town feels more real than Bansko’s, is small, has some ruins in it, including a large amphitgheater with a beautiful backdrop, and restored houses and museums, most of which were closed as it was Monday. I wasn’t much into museums anyway, so that was fine by me. It was nice to walk around the tree-shaded streets again. There were a few vendors around, trying to sell their wares in a desultory kind of way. Bob & I took our time and wended our way back to the apratment.
A few hours later it was time to eat, of course, so the three of us joined Lyuben, Tanya, and Larry’s son Brydyn and Lyuben’s daughter Tsvety along with Alek for an outdoor dinner. I ended up ordering two trout dinners by mistake, but managed to eat them both with a little help from Brydyn. We talked about kavals, authenticity, and joked around. (Lyuben thinks some who plays authentic music is someone who had not studied in school and who has not heard other musics on the radio, just learned from their family, village, or acquaintances. He thinks it’s no longer possible for anyone to have this label, except possibly for older folks in viillages (kind of like the elders Elena and Jane were interviewing and learning from)). Lyuben had played a kaval at the Smithsonian collected around 1893. He made some recordings on it for the museum. To my surprise, he said it was in 3 pieces, like the current modern version; I’d been expecting an instrument that old would still be in a single piece, like the current Macedonian ones.
The two women left early to take Alek to bed, and we returned to Larry’s and had more rakia, discussed the policies of various Balkan countries toward their Jewish populations during WW2 and currently, and anything else that surfaced. It was a full day, but I didn’t feel tired in the least; I must be having a very relaxed time.